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WPN Interview with a New Couple, J and R

WPN: Well, I know from talking with yuns at the last swim that it was your first time at any nudist event. You must have enjoyed yourselves because your back.

R: (wife) We sure did!

WPN: So how did you guys get interested in naturism?

J: (husband) I first found out about it while living in Australia as a kid. Our family would go camping on the beach. We ended up next to a nude beach but didn't know it. My brother and I could see people up the beach but too far to tell they weren't wearing any clothes. We were camping, so heck, we thought we'd go see who was there. Maybe some more kids to play with. So we ventured up there and they were all naked. Someone mentioned to us that it's not polite be dressed on a nude beach. We were welcome to stay, but we'd have to take off our suits or we'd have to leave.

WPN: So you stayed?

J: Yes, as a matter of fact, we ended up leaving our suits there and going back to camp naked. We either forgot we were naked or didn't care. I don't remember. But we went back for dinner and our mom wants to know where our clothes where. We told her about going up the beach and finding these naked people and joining them. So our mother and other brothers went up the beach to see what was going on. Maybe she just wanted to make sure everything was ok. But we all joined them and it was great.

WPN: Isn't it strange how nudism is accepted in other countries, much more than here.

J: Yeah. The one popular beach there that was always a clothed beach when I was there is now a nude beach.

WPN: So you moved back to the USA. Did you experience naturism here right away?

J: Well, we moved back to the States and then back to Australia. We were over there about seven years total I guess. We moved back here for good when I was about ten or eleven. It's different over here. Growing up as an Australian, we had a lot of customs and ideas that wasn't normal over here. So we had to adjust. Like, we had to wear uniforms to school there. If you didn't have one, until you got one you dressed respectfully.

WPN: Isn't that funny? Look at how kids in this country dress for school. And we think we're so far ahead of the rest of the world in our thinking. But the kids over there spend their weekends and vacations with their families enjoying the sunshine and water naked, with no shame, and kids over here wouldn't be caught dead getting naked. They've been taught it's bad and embarrassing.

R: Right! We were talking about that earlier today. As much as we think we're a forward thinking country, the rest of the world is ok with nudity, but here it's looked down upon. It's hard to understand. You're afraid to tell people you're a nudist. That's not right.

J: Her and I were talking about her friend...how old is she?

R: 22

J: And so we were debating on whether to tell her and some others we're nudist. We figured how different ones would react. There's one friend of her's that we know he'd come for the wrong reasons. No way! We could never tell him. We see nothing wrong with this, yet we have to be careful who we tell.

WPN: Yeah, you know friends that would enjoy naturism and try it if you could only tell them about it without offending them. Your afraid they'll think you're crazy or just want to see them naked. (LOL)

R: Exactly! (LOL)

J: I guess I've always been a nudist. When I was thirteen or so in Palm Springs, me and a couple friends would go up in the mountains and skinny dip and soak up the sun. It was so relaxing. Exhilarating, I guess. But I never tried it in a group with girls. I've always had concerns about...natural body functions...you know, getting excited. That would be embarrassing. But since we've started coming here, it's never happened.

WPN: That's the hardest thing to explain to a guy, that you don't get turned on by being naked around naked women. It's not sexual. And their like...yeah, right. Something wrong with you? You can't explain it. Being naked has nothing to do with sex. But people in this country can't understand that.

J: I read enough about it before coming here on different web sites to make me feel relaxed about it. I wasn't really that concerned by the time we came to our first swim. It seems to me that maybe the first five minutes you're aware that you're naked, and after that you don't notice. Our first time here we couldn't help but notice that after a while, when someone else would come in, they seemed obvious because they hadn't undressed yet.

R: (LOL) yeah, we talked about that. They stood out from everyone else.

WPN: So you two are married?

R: Yes.

WPN: How long?

R: Go ahead...

J: Ahhh...twelve years. (?)

R: Yep. I always let him answer that one, you know. (LOL)

WPN: (LOL) Don't worry J, I got the same problem. I forget my own birthday. Are you guys nudists at home?

R: Yes. Since we've been together. It's just natural, with the two of us.

WPN: Any kids?

J: I have a daughter. She stays with us often. She comfortable being naked around us, and it doesn't bother us at all. But it's not like we stay naked all the time when she's there. We pass in the hall after a shower or when we first wake up, and it's normal. It's no issue. I work with chemicals sometimes, so I undress in the basement rather than drag them through the house. It's no big deal for her to see me naked. Her mom wouldn't be ok with her coming with us to a swim.

WPN: How old is she?

J: Almost nine.

WPN: So when did you guys first start thinking about going to a nudist event?

J: About six years ago. I always wanted to try it. Maybe in a state forest or something. Do some nude hiking. Then I came across Whitethorn while surfing the web, and I thought there's a place, not far, that we can go try it for a day and if either of us don't like it we can leave. But life and circumstances got in the way and so it never happened. We got this running list of things we want to do in life, and this was one of those things. We did the ballroom dancing thing...

R: (LOL) yeah, we were like, ...next!

J: So I was surfing the net and came across the West Penn web site. It was close to home, so I thought what the heck and sent an email telling them we were interested in coming to a swim.

WPN: R, you were curious too?

R: Yes! I really was.

J: I'll tell you the truth, I wasn't sure she was all that interested.

R: Well, I said I don't know about it with other people? It's different with just us.

J: The way she reacts to things is like sure, I'll try anything once. She'd say ok, lets go, but then something else would come up and she'd say darn, we 're going to miss it. I remember one time we were going to come for sure, but I guess we both made up excuses and we didn't. But finally we got the coupons off the web site and said this is it, we're going.

WPN: So I guess when you finally came you guys had your rules like all the other couples their first time. If one of us is uncomfortable, we're leaving.

R: Right, we're out of here! But we came the first time and it was great! I felt comfortable. I really did. He asked me after we left if I was ok and I said I was really nervous at first. But after ten minutes, I was fine. Everyone was great. I had a good time.

WPN: You guys got to try some camping. You'll love it.

R: That's what he keeps telling me. And I love the sun, so I can't wait!

WPN: Yeah, the swims are fun. It's a fun thing to do in the winter time. Face it, we live around Pittsburgh, so it's cold and there's not much to do this time of year involving nudism. But you come to the swims and stay in touch with friends. It's nice. And come summer we run into each other camping and it's great. Super Bowl at Whitethorn, it's a blast! Teams from all over the country and Canada playing some serious volleyball. One thousand plus nudists. Enjoying the outdoors. It's so much fun.

R: Wow!

(someone hollers to the reporter that there's only five hot stuffed peppers left and Taz is leaving. It's a joke, but this reporter panics! Taz's hot peppers alone are worth the drive to a swim. The interview continues, but at a quicker pace)

WPN: So what else do you guys do for fun? I know you like the Steelers.

R: Actually, I'm a Greenbay fan.

WPN: Really? My wife wanted to wear our daughters cheese head tonight for crazy hat night but I told her she's a Steeler fan and it wouldn't be right.

R: Shucks, I should have worn mine!

WPN: So what else do you do?

J: I play deck hockey. We go to karaoke once in a while. I play the drums.

WPN: Is there anyone else, like friends or coworkers, that you've told you're nudist?

R: My girl friend I told you about earlier. We invited her out for dinner with us before we came here tonight. J asked what I was going to tell her if she asked what we're doing later. So when she did, I told her we were going to a swim club we visit. I think it went over her head at the time, but I'm sure when she thinks about it she'll be asking about it. I'm just going to tell her we're nudist. I sure she'll be fine with it. Now my mother, she'd go off her rocker. My family is very old fashion. They wouldn't get it.

J: You know what I just realized? You asked us what we like to do. I like to play hockey, play drums, I ran a marathon last year and I'm going to do another one this summer...

R: And I watch you do all of this (LOL).

J: Yeah. And this is one thing we both like and do together.

R: That's right!

WPN: I think that's the way all couples feel about it. Anything else you guys want to say?

R: I want to get back in the pool!

WPN: I'm going to grab a hot pepper before they're gone. Thanks for spending time telling us your


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